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the opposition's base, it's fueling the n.r.a. with new funding new membership, why do the democrats want to take this on? >> well, in part because they do want to actually see action but what you saw with senator feinstein acknowledging what an uphill battle it is you start to wonder, the administration's own push with some executive action, with a lot of things that they can do behind the scenes they're doing this two-fold and congress is acting outside of what the administration wishes. so it's two real tracks and it's no accident the vice president is going to virginia tomorrow to take this show on the road a little bit with a round table discussion, he's going to have different lawmakers there. this is the site -- the state where virginia tech happened the school shooting there, very tragic, and he's trying to sort of capitalize on a lot of that energy the same way they're doing on newtown to motivate people to action. from a political perspective in congress democrats raised pacs as well. gabrielle giffords aims to raise $20 million for the 2014 midterm elections. the n.r.a. is obviously as
unenforced. >> ifill: committee chairman patrick leahy, a democrat, challenged lapierre on whether the n.r.a. supports limiting gun sales in any fashion. >> now, in your testimony in '99, you supported mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. you said, quote, "no loopholes anywhere for anyone." now, today, of course, you said criminals would never submit to background checks. statistics show that many do. nearly two million convicted criminals and other dangerous people trying to buy a firearm since '94, as chief johnson said, were prevented. so let me ask you this: do you still, as you did in 1999, still support mandatory background checks at gun shows, yes or no? >> senator, i do not believe the way the law is working now, unfortunately, that it does any good to extend the law to private sales between hobbyists and collectors. >> okay, so you do not support mandatory background checks in all instances at gun shows. >> we do not because the fact is the law right now is a failure the way it's working. the fact is that you have 76,000-some people that hav
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